He said he already check Arl Eamon's estate in Denerim. Vamar: You need to go to the Royal Palace, which you should be able to get to from the Denerim map.
User Info: zenandi. Redcliffe castle or Landsmeet Chambers? From your codex, Arl Eamon is at the Chambers already. You need to go to Denerim, enter city map and pick the Royal Palace or wherever the Landsmeet's taking place Oh damn it, now I feel silly.
Missed that detail. I've scoured his estate in Denerim; he's not there. Have you tried to go to the actual Landsmeet in Denerim's Royal Palace? More topics from this board Kill Trian or not?
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Side Quest 3 Answers Is there a item storage in the camp? Side Quest 4 Answers. Ask A Question. Note that this fight cannot be avoided, and unlike all other companions, Alistair will immediately kill Loghain if he chosen to fight the duel.
If the Landsmeet outcome favors Loghain, or the Warden wins the argument but opts to attack Loghain rather than agreeing to a honorable duel, there will be an all out brawl within the chamber.
Queen Anora's royal guards will assist whichever side Anora supported during the Landsmeet. Furthermore, the Warden's party will be joined by Redcliffe soldiers, the nobles who supported the Warden, and their soldiers.
Before entering the Landsmeet chamber, the Warden will be confronted by Ser Cauthrien, if she was not killed during the Rescue the Queen quest.
If Cauthrien is not persuaded to stand down, she and her contingent will attack:. Dragon Age Wiki Explore. Dragon Age Series. Explore Wikis Community Central.
Register Don't have an account? Royal Palace. Everyone who had a relative imprisoned can be found at the Gnawed Noble Tavern. Give Alfstanna the ring if you want her support; if you do not give her the ring, you will lose her support at the Landsmeet.
Talk to Bann Sighard about a reward for saving Oswyn up to 50 , and he will provide his support in the Landsmeet no matter what dialogue options are chosen. Don't forget to approach Arl Wulff in the booth closest to the door in the Gnawed Noble Tavern and talk to him to ensure you secure his vote.
Bann Ceorlic will always vote for Loghain, whereas Arl Bryland will always vote for the Wardens, so you need to procure the support of the other three. After returning to Arl Eamon's Estate, Anora will explain that there has been unrest in the Elven Alienage and that she suspects her father and Arl Howe are behind it.
She suggests investigating the Alienage for incriminating evidence to use against Loghain at the Landsmeet. At this point, it is also possible to lay some groundwork for who will take the throne by speaking with Anora and Alistair. It is possible to convince Alistair to marry Anora with sufficient Coercion skill. Riordan will also be in Arl Eamon's estate. If the Warden Documents were found in the Arl of Denerim's estate, then speaking with him now gives the Warden the option to ask more about the Grey Warden Vault he mentioned, and he will explain its location.
Once this quest has been obtained from Anora, the previously closed gate to the Alienage from the Denerim Market District is now open and can be used to access the Alienage via the Denerim City Map the guard by the gate will confirm that the Alienage is now open again.
You will not be able to reach the Alienage directly from your map and instead must go through the exit in the southeastern portion of the Market District. Inside the Alienage, there seems to be some sort of plague, and some Tevinter mages allege that they are helping to cure it.
Shianni , however, is suspicious of their motives. Investigate by speaking to the Tevinter healers in the crowd and then go around to the back of the building to gain entrance to the hospice by either killing or bribing the lone guard there.
Inside the hospice, kill the guards, pick up a shipment note wrapped around a brass key , and free the elves in the back room. Exit the building through the same back entrance and speak to Shianni. If you had to fight the guards outside the hospice, Shianni will be walking around nearby. This conversation will lead you again to the back of the hospice where you'll continue on and find a new location called " apartments.
Use the key on a metal door in the apartments and you'll be in a new part of the alienage with several guards. Once the guards are dealt with, enter the door marked " warehouse. When you enter the warehouse, you're greeted by Devera , a Tevinter elf. You have the choice to kill her, intimidate her to leave, or have her take you straight to the Tevinter mage, Caladrius , which will bypass traveling through several rooms with traps and soldiers.
At the end of the warehouse, you can negotiate with Caladrius for evidence of Loghain's involvement in selling elves to the Tevinter Imperium or fight a large battle with him and a bunch of his minions. After the cutscene ends, he will disappear, so you don't have the option to kill him after you accept his request. If you refuse his request, you can either let him go or kill him. After completing the quest, if you did not have Caladrius sacrifice the elven prisoners to increase your constitution, then you can speak to the freed elder, Valendrian , at his home for a dialogue about Duncan.
If you are a City Elf, you will speak to Cyrion instead, as Valendrian would have already been en route to Tevinter. Afterwards, head back to Arl Eamon's estate and show him the Slave Papers.
You have to do this if you plan to use them as evidence against Loghain in the Landsmeet. If you do not show the papers to Eamon, this will be considered an unsupported claim that will work against you.
After dealing with the unrest in the alienage, a new icon appears on the Denerim City Map and you can travel to the Royal Palace where the Landsmeet is held.
Traveling there starts the next part of this quest line. And so the Landsmeet starts. If you didn't wipe out Cauthrien 's troops at the Arl of Denerim's estate, she moves to prevent your entrance to the Landsmeet. Several conversation options make combat here completely avoidable. If Coercion is high enough she will even admit to knowing that Loghain must be stopped, and allow you by without incident. Killing her is difficult but also the only way to acquire the Summer Sword ; it's also significantly easier than it was or would have been at the Arl of Denerim's Estate.
The decision requires five "points" to win the Landsmeet. These points are unlikely to match up with the voting as presented in the cutscene; thus the Warden might seem to win the vote, yet lose the debate. However, the values of each scenario are:. The last noble to speak does not represent a winnable vote, but summarizes the vote's outcome instead his vote and the outcome of the debate never differ, as with the canceling votes of Bryland and Ceorlic.
There are multiple ways to win the Landsmeet. Just be careful when presenting the arguments of Ostagar or Alistair's claim to the throne: the first isn't backed by any evidence, and without successful Persuasion, pursuing either of these will cost you a point. In fact, any Warden who leads with Alistair's claim, then follows by accusing Loghain of his Ostagar treason, automatically loses the debate. Use the "focus on the Blight" argument in the first round, the "torture dungeons of Howe" argument in the second, and the "poisoning of Arl Eamon" argument in the third.
If done successfully, Loghain will bring up the topic of Anora being held by the Wardens. To this, use " What have I done? I've protected her from you! You cannot bring up the arguments of Howe and Eamon since you do not have any proof. You need Anora's support and persuasive arguments which do not cost you any points, which is Blight in the first round, slavery in the second and Alistair's claim with a successful persuade check in the third. If you have not gained the support of the majority of the nobles, you lose the debate.
If this happens, Loghain will order you arrested, with Arl Eamon declaring he will fight back. A melee breaks out in the Landsmeet chamber. If you win the Landsmeet, Loghain will accuse everyone of being traitors and refuse to give up power, and you can either directly challenge him to an honorable duel or simply attack.
Brawl : Arl Eamon and his men will back you up; Anora's royal guards will also help you against Loghain if you have supported her for succession to the throne.
Other named nobles fight on the side of whomever they support.
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